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Fantus · May 06, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

To get the "Protector of Cantha" title, you'd have to do all 13 missions. So far, so good. Only that it doesn't seem to be possible to enter the 2 missions on Shing Jea Island with Tyrian characters, meaning that they never will be able to get the title "Protector of Cantha" and probably not "Cantan Master Cartographer" either.

I hereby suggest to change it so that Tryian characters have access to all titles, including Canthan ones.

Tarun · May 06, 2006, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Agreed, it adds more challenge to the game to get all the titles. What's wrong with a Tyrian char getting Cantha safe too?

/signed

Evilsod · May 06, 2006, 02:39 PM // 14:39

Its the same when you look at it vice versa. Canthan characters can't do missions before LA (Gates of Kryta and previous), meaning you'll miss out on about 10% exploration at least and a fair few missions.

Fantus · May 06, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Its the same when you look at it vice versa. Canthan characters can't do missions before LA (Gates of Kryta and previous), meaning you'll miss out on about 10% exploration at least and a fair few missions.

I haven't tried - but what stops you from running back from LA and do them?

Evilsod · May 06, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

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Originally Posted by Fantus

I haven't tried - but what stops you from running back from LA and do them?

Nothing.... you just can't do anything when you get there.

Lepton CFd · May 06, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38

/signed

I'm not sure why ANet implemented this. I guess maybe they don't want lvl 20s doing the easier missions on either continent? I don't really see the problem with that...

Players should have the ability to get any title they strive for, in my opinion.

JC68 · May 06, 2006, 05:08 PM // 17:08

actually, i think there are 15 missions in game (maybe i count them wrong)
11 + 2 story missions for kurzicks + 2 story missions for luxons
so Tyrian char is able to finish:
9 (11-2 "pre-searing" missions) + 2 kurzicks + 2 luxons = 13

Fantus · May 06, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by JC68

actually, i think there are 15 missions in game (maybe i count them wrong)
11 + 2 story missions for kurzicks + 2 story missions for luxons
so Tyrian char is able to finish:
9 (11-2 "pre-searing" missions) + 2 kurzicks + 2 luxons = 13

If you finish Minister Estate with a Canthan character it counts this mission towards the title. So I guess you need to finish it to get the title.

JC68 · May 06, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06

maybe, but i was wrong, there are only 14 missions :/
so Tyrian chars are able to complete 12 missions

Arkantos · May 06, 2006, 07:33 PM // 19:33

It wouldn't make sence. Tyrian chars come in the storyline when they have an idea who's behind the plague. Them doing the missions in SHing Jea wouldn't make sence. Same with Canthans in Tyria, they come in the storyline when the ascalon people make it to kryta, and Rurik is dead. Doing other missions like Frost gate rurik is in it, but he's supposed to be dead.

/Notsigned

samifly · May 06, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

And people time traveling back to ascalon (to complete a bonus, whatever) does make sense?

Arkantos · May 06, 2006, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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Originally Posted by samifly

And people time traveling back to ascalon (to complete a bonus, whatever) does make sense?

No, it doesnt.

samifly · May 06, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

still can do it, as a tyrian at least

Fantus · May 07, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

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Originally Posted by Bloody Death

It wouldn't make sence. Tyrian chars come in the storyline when they have an idea who's behind the plague. Them doing the missions in SHing Jea wouldn't make sence. Same with Canthans in Tyria, they come in the storyline when the ascalon people make it to kryta, and Rurik is dead. Doing other missions like Frost gate rurik is in it, but he's supposed to be dead.

/Notsigned

The obvious solution would be not to count the 2 Shing Jea missions towards the title...

rollntider · May 07, 2006, 08:26 AM // 08:26

Signed

make both peoples able to play 100% of the missions

Terra Xin · May 07, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

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Originally Posted by Fantus

The obvious solution would be not to count the 2 Shing Jea missions towards the title...

I think if a Tyrian wants to be a protector of Cantha, the concept of the title should be changed. I think that, where you are born, you are going to be protector of your home someday. Protecting someone elses homeland doesn't cut it for me - to warrant outsiders for the same title. Perhaps if the title was renamed, and (agrees with quote) outsiders didnt have to do the preliminary missions to achieve the title, that would be great.

If im confusing everyone, im suggesting the title be changed for outsiders who are achieving the same goal as the homelander.

But /signed otherwise^^

Symeon · May 07, 2006, 10:23 AM // 10:23

Just a note, I believe it is possible to get 'Canthan Master Cartographer' with a Tyrian, as both missions on Shing Jea are accessible as normal areas from the outposts you enter afterwards (i.e. Ran Musu Gardens and Seitung Harbour).

As for getting Protector of Cantha with Tyrians and Protector of Tyria with Canthans, I think ANet did not lock these earlier missions from those of the other continent with the sole purpose of not allowing us to do them and get the title, but more that we should not experience that earlier storyline - Tyrians are supposed to arrive in Cantha with Mhenlo at the same time the Canthans leave Shing Jea Island, and Canthans arrive in Tyria at the time of the Undead troubles.

The part of the Canthans going to Tyria and doing the Krytan missions confuses me time-wise, though... surely, the Tyrian characters who have completed the game, or at least ascended, go to Cantha after doing so... if Canthans come to Tyria at the same time and go through the storyline that the Tyrians have already been through on the time-scale - eh?...

Chuba · May 07, 2006, 10:38 AM // 10:38

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Originally Posted by King Symeon

Just a note, I believe it is possible to get 'Canthan Master Cartographer' with a Tyrian, as both missions on Shing Jea are accessible as normal areas from the outposts you enter afterwards (i.e. Ran Musu Gardens and Seitung Harbour).

But Ran Musu gardens won´t be open to ANY characters, not even to Canthan born, until they finish the Minister Cho´s Estate -mission. The gate is closed.

samifly · May 07, 2006, 10:57 AM // 10:57

ehh.. I dont think you have to be a native to qualify to be a protector. There are plenty of situations i can see where someone who is not native is a "protector"

Fantus · May 08, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by samifly

ehh.. I dont think you have to be a native to qualify to be a protector. There are plenty of situations i can see where someone who is not native is a "protector"

If I remember correctly, saving Cantha is the reason why we Tyrians even got summoned over there. So we can as well get recognition for it...